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StooGe Dreamcast	posted 23-01-2001 11:24 PM We bought a Loewe, and I must say it rocks! Scart is wonderful, I never knew one little cord could bring so much happiness. I'm just hanging out for my 3-CD Toy Story pack now... IP: Logged
Photar Dreamcast	posted 24-01-2001 12:56 PM Wow, a Loewe. I want one! I've got a Loewe VCR and TV and yes, SCART rules! How much did you pay? I didn't even know Loewe had a DVD player. IP: Logged
StooGe Dreamcast	posted 24-01-2001 05:11 PM We too have a Loewe TV, and soon a Loewe video. The DVD just came out and it's $1000.00. We didn't pay that much, because we bought a couple (not all for us). It is the best player on the market, even beating players worth 3 times as much. We are wiring our house with Scart connections to Loewe TVs soon, and as you may know, we can control any Scart device through any TV. Very cool indeed. IP: Logged
kingcaleb Dreamcast	posted 24-01-2001 05:32 PM Could one of you please explain what scart is ? Is it related to pal/ntsc, or is is RGB ? How does it relate to component video ? Pardon my ignorance - loewe tele's have always seemed way too expensive for me. IP: Logged
Dionysus Dreamcast	posted 24-01-2001 06:00 PM Caleb, Scart is a European connection. You know the chunky looking plugs with 21 pins. Generally Scart is RGB, but you can get Scart S-Video and Scart Composite. It is just a different type of connection. And Loewe DVD players are not even close to being the best player on the market. Their VCR's are very overpriced as well, but there is no question that Loewe make the best TV's available in Australia. If you know the basics about DVD you know that it is physically impossible for the Loewe to be better than the equivalently priced Toshiba or Pioneer DVD players. [This message has been edited by Dionysus (edited 24-01-2001).] IP: Logged
Dionysus Dreamcast	posted 24-01-2001 06:07 PM By the way, my understanding is that Component is better for DVD as it is the native video signal of DVD. I do not think there is much diference, if any. Several retailers who sell TV's with SCART connections describe them as the 21 pins of death, as the pins get bent or broken very easily. I do not know of any retailer that sells Grundig or Loewe TV's who thinks RGB is better, but everyone I have ever spoken to(I brought my first Loewe in 1992) believes Component is better. IP: Logged
StooGe Dreamcast	posted 24-01-2001 11:17 PM quote: Originally posted by Dionysus: And Loewe DVD players are not even close to being the best player on the market. If you know the basics about DVD you know that it is physically impossible for the Loewe to be better than the equivalently priced Toshiba or Pioneer DVD players. Are you sure? No? Didn't think so. IP: Logged
mech Dreamcast	posted 24-01-2001 11:45 PM God, and I thought I was surly. IP: Logged
StooGe Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 12:03 AM quote: Originally posted by mech: God, and I thought [b]I was surly.[/B] You mean you're not? IP: Logged
Mr. Bungle Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 01:08 AM we've got a German made Euro 68 cm Sony TV from the early nineties. great picture, decent(ish) sound, but the only AV input is a scart connection. it's broken. i'd love to get it repaired and try it out... IP: Logged
kingcaleb Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 07:31 AM quote: Originally posted by Dionysus: Caleb, Scart is a European connection. You know the chunky looking plugs with 21 pins. Generally Scart is RGB, but you can get Scart S-Video and Scart Composite. Yep thanks I understand now - I have a composite->scart converter at home and it's always confused me how two tiny wires become a huge rectangular block of pins. However now I realize it can also be RGB it makes sense. What doesn't make sense is making a fuss about a different shaped plug ! quote: Originally posted by Dionysus: there is no question that Loewe make the best TV's available in Australia. I really wanted a loewe 'aconda' - they make dvd's look amazing. However when I discovered they're not even DTV compatible it's a joke spending $5700 on one. Then again loewe is still arguably the best because the only other choices are clunky oversaturated sony Wegas, and panasonic taus with hideous contrast. IP: Logged
Zaius Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 09:08 AM I've got an older style Loewe TV with SCART and it rocks. It hasone of the better pictures around. I am surprised as I picked it up for teh same price as a level entry SONY TV?? A work mate of mine has a Loewe Widescreen HDTV, now this toatally rocks and the HDTV tunner is great. I saw a lot of the test transmissions late last year from 7 and 9 and now that HDTV is about, the news is suddently worth watching! ------------------ -------------- You maniacs! You Blew it up! IP: Logged
DJ Fusion GameCube	posted 25-01-2001 09:45 AM quote: Originally posted by StooGe: Are you sure? No? Didn't think so. Stooge, Dionysus is undoubtably and undisputably the most educated member of these forums when it comes to all things audio and visual. You'd do well to treat his word as gospel. IP: Logged
lestat Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 11:15 AM quote: By the way, my understanding is that Component is better for DVD as it is the native video signal of DVD. I do not think there is much diference, if any. Several retailers who sell TV's with SCART connections describe them as the 21 pins of death, as the pins get bent or broken very easily. I do not know of any retailer that sells Grundig or Loewe TV's who thinks RGB is better, but everyone I have ever spoken to(I brought my first Loewe in 1992) believes Component is better. Actually RGB is better than Component, the native image composition of DVD is made up of RGB pixels, with RGB scart the pixels are directly tranfered to the TV in native RBG format and the then TV displays the image and since TV�s use the RGB colour scheme there is no conversion required. Component video converts the native rgb pixel into the yuv colour space, that is then sent to the tv and then the tv converts the yuv back to rgb to display on the screen. The conversion process can create errors or artefacts which can make the image quality slightly lower quality than rgb. One reason component is liked is because things like macrovision which is used to copy protect dvd video still works on it, macrovision doesn�t work on RGB. Also those scart cables can be a pain sometimes. IP: Logged
Dionysus Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 11:53 AM quote: Originally posted by lestat: The conversion process can create errors or artefacts which can make the image quality slightly lower quality than rgb. One reason component is liked is because things like macrovision which is used to copy protect dvd video still works on it, macrovision doesn�t work on RGB. Also those scart cables can be a pain sometimes. The couple of people I have spoken to at Len Wallis believe this is the reason that Component is better, as the German Tv's have a processor in them that converts the RGB signal. I am not sure exactly how it works, but they insisted that it was better to get a Grundig and use the component connections over the RGB as the conversion process makes the RGB picture inferior to component. Interesting!! And StooGe, I know for a FACT that Loewe DVD players are not as good as the latest generation Toshiba and Pioneer players, as the Loewe does not even have the progressive scan output. It is at least one generation behind the latest Toshiba and Pioneer DVD players, so please explain how it could be better. Also please explain how you KNOW it is better than all other players, and what DVD players you used to do your A/B comparisons. IP: Logged
Dionysus Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 12:04 PM quote: Originally posted by StooGe: Are you sure? No? Didn't think so. Are you aware that the Loewe DVD player is a rebadged Pioneer????? I didn't think so!! IP: Logged
kingcaleb Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 01:01 PM quote: Originally posted by Dionysus: the Loewe DVD player is a rebadged Pioneer Does that mean they suffer from audiosynch problems? Are they rebadged 505/525's or something better? I'm sure MichaelD would be interested to know. IP: Logged
mech Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 01:25 PM Jesus you're annoying Stooge. IP: Logged
Dionysus Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 02:41 PM quote: Originally posted by kingcaleb: Does that mean they suffer from audiosynch problems? Are they rebadged 505/525's or something better? I'm sure MichaelD would be interested to know. My understanding of the way it works is that the DVD drive is made by by Pioneer then sold to Loewe who put in some of their onw parts and make some minor changes ect. Most of the players on the market are either rebadged Toshiba or Pioneer players. IE they all use Pioneer of Toshiba transports and technology, so it is impossible for a rebadged machine to be better than it's Toshiba or Pioneer equivalent. Has anyone ever noticed how much dearer the enrty level players from Denon, Onkyo, Yamaha ect are compared to the entry level Toshiba and Pioneer players, well now you know why. IP: Logged
StooGe Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 03:05 PM Fair enough Dionysus, I may have got a bit carried away, but I want to check out what you are saying anyway. Thanks for the info. And in regards to this... quote: Originally posted by mech: Jesus you're annoying Stooge. If my posting has in anyway offended you, I sincerely apologise that you're a wanker. IP: Logged
mech Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 03:36 PM IP: Logged
StooGe Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 04:45 PM quote: Originally posted by mech: I see you have accepted my apology. This experience can only make you stronger. Good luck my friend. IP: Logged
DJ Fusion GameCube	posted 25-01-2001 04:48 PM Stooge, it is better to keep ones mouth closed and be considered a fool, then to open it and remove all doubt. IP: Logged
StooGe Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 05:04 PM quote: Originally posted by DJ Fusion: Stooge, it is better to keep ones mouth closed and be considered a fool, then to open it and remove all doubt. All I can do in reply to that is... quote: Originally posted by mech: IP: Logged
Super Scrooge Dreamcast	posted 25-01-2001 05:10 PM Is it just me or does the audio/visual industry seem full of nonsense, waffle and snobbery. I mean $5000 cd players, $200 a metre speaker cable, gold-plated interconnects etc. Does anyone actually think it makes a difference? It seems like high-tech snake oil. Very un-Scroogelike. ------------------ There's nothing wrong with charity...as long as it winds up in your pocket. -Ferengi rule of acquisition No.144 IP: Logged

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