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Topic: There sure is a lot of X-box fanboys in here
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Megaman
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posted 27-10-2001 12:25 PM
   
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Originally posted by Peppermint Lounge:
Since when is a hard drive an innovation? They've been in consumer PCs since the early 80s.
If someone put a fridge in a console, would you say that it wasn't innovative because you've had a fridge in your kitchen for years?
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DJ Fusion
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posted 27-10-2001 12:26 PM
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So what is innovation??The NGC has an interesting controller, but big whoop, my Atari had a controller too you know, nothing new there. If someone put a fridge in a console, would you say that it wasn't innovative because you've had a fridge in your kitchen for years?
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Megaman
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posted 27-10-2001 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Peppermint Lounge:
LOL. Christopher makes a few polite, rather pertinent points regarding M$'s motivation and look at the XBox fanboys fly.
This thread is obviously flamebait, it's hardly surprising that Christopher is receiver the flaming he set out to achieve. If I started a thread entitled "There sure is a lot of Peppermint Lounge posts here" containing a number of idiotic reasons why you suck, I think you'd probably reply. And I still don't understand the idea behind the "$" in things like "M$", "Ozi$oft" and "Tel$tra".
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DJ Fusion
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posted 27-10-2001 12:36 PM
DJ Fu$ion.$orry if I'm cranky, I'm trying to set up a 25 computer private network at work here for a bid project and I just found out my ghost image disks are fuxored and I have to configure all 25 brand new PCs to our standard operating environment manually.
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GameHED
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posted 27-10-2001 12:42 PM
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The only thing that makes the Gamecube different from Xbox and PS2 is that there's next to no software available for it. And I don't think this is something Nintendo intended.
Nintendo don't care about third parties, so in a way they probably did intend to not have so many (as in "just let anybody launch crap on the system") third parties joining the system. (they control the competition of software) They don't need or rely on them a much as Sony and MS. If they can get good sales off thier own software titles, it is all that matters. Anything else is a bonus to them. (The exposure, hype from securing big names etc) I think this is the difference between nintendo and the other 2. They listen to themselves (rather than everyone else) and do what they want regardless of the fanboy criticism. If something looks like it is going to fail, they can it, rather than letting it go on with no support and suddenly abandoning it and leaving people with nothing to look forward to. (even GBC has it's hits)
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DJ Fusion
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posted 27-10-2001 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by GameHED:
Nintendo don't care about third parties, so in a way they probably did intend to not have so many (as in "just let anybody launch crap on the system") third parties joining the system.
Good point, but it's still a cross against the systems launch instead of a tick.
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Vzzzbx
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posted 27-10-2001 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Megaman:
And I still don't understand the idea behind the "$" in things like "M$", "Ozi$oft" and "Tel$tra".
It implies that these companies are only in it for the money, because we all know that profitable businesses are evil.
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koensayr[vKm]
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posted 27-10-2001 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by DJ Fusion:
$orry if I'm cranky, I'm trying to set up a 25 computer private network at work here for a bid project and I just found out my ghost image disks are fuxored and I have to configure all 25 brand new PCs to our standard operating environment manually.
Then you're a masochist. Just make more bootdisks FFS.
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Peppermint Lounge
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posted 27-10-2001 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Megaman:
If someone put a fridge in a console, would you say that it wasn't innovative because you've had a fridge in your kitchen for years?
Hard drives have been a part of gaming for years. Hard drives in consoles are certainly something new, but they can't be described as an innovation. Even if you can successfully argue they are, it's not one you can credit to Microsoft because Sony have HDD's available for Playstation 2 today. quote:
This thread is obviously flamebait, it's hardly surprising that Christopher is receiver the flaming he set out to achieve. If I started a thread entitled "There sure is a lot of Peppermint Lounge posts here" containing a number of idiotic reasons why you suck, I think you'd probably reply.
Flamebait? You mean he has an opinion that differs from your own so you flamed him. That's more like it. I've reread Christopher's opening posts and I can't see where he says XBox 'sucks'. All he questions is whether XBox will add much variety for consumers if all MS seek to do is emulate Sony's business model. Fair question. You'll need a thicker skin if you're going to be an XBox fanboy, Megaman. quote:
And I still don't understand the idea behind the "$" in things like "M$", "Ozi$oft" and "Tel$tra".
Because they're corporations who care more about profits and shareholders than consumers. I mean nothing political by that stmt. I'm happy with capitalism. Doesn't mean you can't make light of it sometimes.
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Vzzzbx
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posted 27-10-2001 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Peppermint Lounge:
Because they're corporations who care more about profits and shareholders than consumers.
So that'd be every company in the entire world then. 
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DJ Fusion
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posted 27-10-2001 12:55 PM
Bootdisks I have. It's our dual CD SOE ghost image. The 25 PC's I received have had their specs upped slightly, and that's not usually an issue but they must have changed their HD driver or something nasty because I blue screen on bootup.It'll be quicker for me to do them manually than spend a day trying to create a new SOE.
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Vzzzbx
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posted 27-10-2001 12:56 PM
Why would you want to create a new Sega Of Europe? They've already got one.
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DJ Fusion
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posted 27-10-2001 12:59 PM
Hands up those who think that this thread is/was flamebait?Me raises hand.
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Vzzzbx
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posted 27-10-2001 01:00 PM
Most threads are flame bait for flamers.Anyone want to do my exams for me?
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Megaman
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posted 27-10-2001 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Vzzzbx:
Most threads are flame bait for flamers.Anyone want to do my exams for me?
No, because your console of choice sucks.
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Peppermint Lounge
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posted 27-10-2001 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Vzzzbx:
So that'd be every company in the entire world then.
Preci$ely
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Megaman
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posted 27-10-2001 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Peppermint Lounge:
All he questions is whether XBox will add much variety for consumers if all MS seek to do is emulate Sony's business model. Fair question.
He also suggests that the Xbox is identical to the PS2, and that the Xbox has no decent software. Statements which are clearly idiotic, and not just because they contradict each other.
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Peppermint Lounge
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posted 27-10-2001 05:46 PM
No he didn't. He describes XBox and PS2 as identical in that MS seek Sony's market/userbase rather than pitching for something new. Identical in that on face value, both devices are similar (DVD, remote control, online plans etc.). MS have courted Sony's key developers hoping XBox might host Sony's key franchises. His point centres around his doubt as to whether MS will bring added originality/variety to the marketplace. It's a fair point. I personally don't agree with it but it's hardly idiotic.I don't recall reading him describing XBox as having 'no decent software' either. He merely suggests XBox (games and hardware) is soft on originality - his personal observation. [This message has been edited by Peppermint Lounge (edited 27-10-2001).]
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Grunty
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posted 27-10-2001 05:50 PM
Peppermint Lounge/Lambchop generation
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Peppermint Lounge
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posted 27-10-2001 05:54 PM
I don't get it.
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Ants in the pants
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posted 27-10-2001 06:46 PM
I'm waiting for someone to blame Sony or Microsoft for the failure of the Dreamcast.  I hope everyone's beyond that by now.Meh, at first I was angry at Microsoft for entering the console market, but with the games that are coming out on it, I don't care about brand name, just what's on the box.*
*no pun intended**
*OK pun intended 
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Christopher De'Toi
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posted 27-10-2001 07:20 PM
Get this through your heads, I am not anti-xbox, I just want something new, what is the hell wrong with that, I can afford to buy all 3 machines but choose not to for the software on ps2 and xbox is going to be way too similar, sure Microsoft is going to have it's halo's and its bloodwake's but that is like 1 exclusive game in every 20, you see I dont care if xbox fails or not, I just wish they put more time into what they are trying to sell instead of throwing money around everywhere. e.g that 500 million dollar's for the marketing campaign could have gone to hiring people with some brains and some creativity instead of men in there 30's like robbie batch who try to act like teenagers who think they are cool e.g at e3 he refused to shake hands with peter main and the guy from sony after there public debate, talk about childish and pathetic.
And this is not a flamebait, I am too busy with my life to do somthing that lame.
[This message has been edited by Christopher De'Toi (edited 27-10-2001).]
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koensayr[vKm]
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posted 27-10-2001 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Grunty:
Peppermint Lounge/Lambchop generation
Ahahahaha!! More like Peppermint Lounge/DJ Fusion generation though imo.
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Corey
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posted 27-10-2001 09:01 PM
Never thought I would see such a heated discussion without seeing the names Lestat or Lambchop. Well done to you all.[This message has been edited by Corey (edited 27-10-2001).]
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Geese Howard
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posted 27-10-2001 11:27 PM
christopher i would have to agree with you there my friend!! x-box is hardly innovate and seems to be triying to hard to be ps 2 when in the end all it will be is more like the dreamcast!! by that i mean dead meat and in the bargin bins!! you x box fanboys are bitter because sony put sega into third party and now sega make games for sony. its called "GET OVER IT PLZ FANBOYS!" ffs this argument is stoopid. if it was microsoft who put the ko punch on sega youd all hate ms but no you hate sony because sony hit them for six!! oh well another day here in fanboy land. christpher mate all i can say is dont waste your time here my friend these people are bitter and twisted sega fanboys who cant let go of the past and arent real gamers. guys like you and me are above the scumm in here since we are real gamers who arent biased towards one thing or another.
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