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Originally posted by Nathan:
when will people learn that 60hz is NOT better

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Elaborate.

60hz...

Easy. Switch any game to 60hz and looks at the brick sized pixcels. Switch to 50hz and watch them shrink along with much of the jaggies effect.

Even shithouse looking PS2 games like Sky Odyssey look a ton better than PSX. I can't understand you guys.

Edit: whoops.

it's 60hz NSTC right? .....so if you have burnout running on a PAL tv in 60hz mode, if it is full screen .. then arn't you 'streaching' the NSTC picture to fill the higer rex PAL screen ... hence shimmer/alising is more noticable?

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Originally posted by mech[vKm]:
I don't think people have been playing PSX games lately. Load up GT3. Watch the textures warp. See the 25fps juddery animation. See the massive, fist size pixels that make up the polygons.

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Idiot.

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2826689,00.html

"Moving forward, the company is planning no less than four new games, which could fall into genres such as RPGs and real-time strategy"

"The arrival of the PlayStation 2 changed a lot. The engineering group was working very closely with SCEI in Japan and got very early access to the machine. The company received one of the earliest PS2 development kits to ship out of Japan. As a result, this early knowledge and understanding was later to benefit the games division. Criterion Games went under massive changes a few years back with a complete refocus away from the PC and toward the superconsoles, specifically PS2. "

"GS: How many developers are using Renderware for their games? Can you tell us about some of the high-profile projects using Renderware that are currently in development?

AW: Well more than 300 around the world. Some of the hit titles you may have seen sporting the RW logo are Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, Grand Theft Auto III, Pro Evolution Soccer from Konami, Championship Motocross featuring Ricky Carmichael, and of course, Burnout and Airblade. "

"Burnout was a very deliberately targeted title for us. It was our second PS2 development in-house. We specifically targeted this release time, pre-Thanksgiving. We had offers to continue development and ship in the middle of next year, but shooting for fall was something that we really wanted to do. The team worked incredibly hard to meet their dates, and they did a great job. If we had tried a different concept, then it would not have been a Burnout experience. The key experience was racing through traffic, driving like a maniac and smashing the car in a pileup."

hmmm .. haven't rented airblade yet but it's been running on the WEGA at blockbuster 24/7 ... looks pretty nice .. no shimmer or jaggies worth mentioning.

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Originally posted by mech[vKm]:
Even shithouse looking PS2 games like Sky Odyssey look a ton better than PSX. I can't understand you guys.

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Originally posted by Nathan:
The footage shown in the ad is from very early development, the actual game if anyone here has played it looks much better than that. Need some proof? Go to the edge forums and ask AlexWard (Criterion) your self. In other words your a dick Candy Arse.

Burnout is an excellent game. There is a lot of jaggies if running in pathetic 60hz mode (when will people learn that 60hz is NOT better), but there are tons of cars on screen and the locals are not bad either. This game NEVER slows down and runs at 50fps in PAL while shifting a huge number of polys.

Any real gamer who sits down a does not pre judge a game before he plays it will come to see that burnout is worthy arcade racer and the best on PS2.

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I played it non-stop the night I took it home, moron. Please be aware of the following facts -

You are a moron.
I have access to far more games than you.
I have access to far more games eariler then you.
You are a moron.
The ad displays far less flicker than what is present in the game. In that regard, the game looks worse. Far far worse.

If you don't like my opinion, give me your address, and I shall send you fifty cents so you can call someone who cares.

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Originally posted by Nathan:
There is a lot of jaggies if running in pathetic 60hz mode

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This I agree with. It is pathetic that PS2 games in 60hz run in NTSC colour. That is where PAL60 Dreamcast ownz it's arse, because the pixcels aren't as bad then and all the real gamers agree that when pixcels are good, the game is good.

Also before I forget, Burnout sucks. Thanks for coming.

Are they in game shots cause they look AmaZing

At least the jaggiest I have seen so far.......which is a lot of games.

I thought my eyes were going to pop out of my head when I was playing Burnout.

I was particularly dissapointed with the fact that when you crash, it always takes those silly cinematic views. I would rather it just go like GTA3 where you barrel into someone, shit goes everwhere, and if you are lucky enough to have your car land back on it's wheels, and doesn't explode, you continue on your way.

I mean really, with ideas like this, I should be designing games. I'd make a car that always lands on it's wheels, and throws fireballs on command. Ha-do-car!

Goddamn I hate PS2.

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Originally posted by DJ Fusion:
I don't hate consoles, I hate PS2 fans thinking that their console is the second coming of christ, and who find enjoyment in the demise of the Dreamcast.

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Dude, who on EARTH on this board says or does anything like that?

Come on. Don't be a w*nker DJ, this is getting ridiculous. No one's on here gloating about DC dying (except from the odd SMALL jibe from lambchop).

You're making stuff up now. PS2 fans enjoy their console. I don't think any of us here are saying it's the be all and end all of consoles. It's just the best supported one at the current time. The graphics are good, the games are good, what's wrong with believing that?

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Originally posted by mech[vKm]:
Dude, who on EARTH on this board says or does anything like that?

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Err... Nobody dude, where did I say anyone did? Go to IGN boards if you want to see some people like that, they do exist.

Just the way you go on on our board about PS2 fanboys you make it sound like we're all rabidly attacking people who like Dreamcast and constantly harping on about the system. If you don't like people who do that, whinge at a forum where people do...

Just don't go thinking that my sweeping statements apply to anybody else apart from the people who deserve it, and Lambchop is guilty of dancing on the grave of the DC, and a few other newbies.

Huh!!! HUH!!!!

I love procrastination. Just cleaned my room... it's spotless.