posted 24-10-2001 07:29 PM            

i used to play Quake 3 and UT every day and that lasted about 6 months.

I can wipe the floor with any of my friends on both of em, the play on keyboards and mouses and they are really good players and i can rape em so easy

Do you guys think that it is normal for me to be this good on the controller?

posted 24-10-2001 08:18 PM         

BRING IT ON!!!

posted 24-10-2001 08:37 PM         

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Originally posted by Spawn_1*CG*:
LMAO! Haaa, haaa....
Any1 can brag & claim crap about Q3 & UT....
U ain't nutin' 'til u prove urself in da arena & some1 here can back it up.
So if ur game..... visit the "Other Games" forum 4 local server details.

BRING IT ON!!!

A.K.A. -cBt>(:^_^ <-Q3:A

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I aint lying, but I dont play Q3 except for a few match's with my friend (Who was owned severely) I think Q3 is too arcadey.. Much preffer Q2.

posted 26-10-2001 03:53 PM         

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Originally posted by Dragonblade:
UT on DC seemed a heck of a lot slower when compared to Q3

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Damn

I tried it on PS2... Euk... I was hopeing for a decent PS2 conversion.

This is a rather odd look at things:

DC - Couldnt cope with UT
PS2 - Couldnt cope with UT
XBox - Getting a game that uses the Unreal 2.5 engine and looks fantastic with great multiplayer aspects/steady framerate(Suposedly)

posted 26-10-2001 04:56 PM         

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Originally posted by Dragonblade:
The Xbox has what it takes to make it in the FPS department, i would buy an Xbox in a second just for that

GOD I WISH I WAS RICH

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Cheer up, theres allways Metroid the FPS Oh wait... **** thats a dissapointment

posted 26-10-2001 05:18 PM         

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Originally posted by Dragonblade:
I am really thinking hard about Xbox OR Gc

damm u microsoft u are slowly changing my mind

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Hehe, Halo is allso a cool FPS on the XBox, along with the previously mentioned Unreal Champions

posted 27-10-2001 10:46 AM         

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Sonic:
"Though I have been naturaly blessed with FPS, first time I ever played Q2 multiplayer was at a LAN even with my brother and a bunch of mates of his who where a pro Q2 team who did tourneys etc.... I came first 2 times out of every 3 maps."

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they must've been some 'real' pro's u had there...

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Sonic:
"I aint lying, but I dont play Q3 except for a few match's with my friend (Who was owned severely) I think Q3 is too arcadey.. Much preffer Q2."

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ok, so ur lying.. now can u plz tell me WTF you are talking about? coz i have no idea. q3 has the most complex physics out of all the ID 1st person series, way more so than q2.
matter of fact...how can an online game be arcadey? wtf does 'arcadey' mean? , can u explain yourself?, do u always bull**** this much? do ppl here always believe what u type? is it 'coz you suck at q3.. so just dismiss it as 'arcadey', without not knowing wtf you're talking about? you said yourself u don't play it much..

tell ya what.. since ur so crash hot, and can beat the "pro's", i'd love to duel u & maybe get some tips.. if thats ok with u?
i'm free all this weekend, just name a time & i'll come back with a server IP, pc or dc.

alrighty then?

ed209[tFz]

(if u didn't notice, it bugs me when ppl don't know wtf they're talking about in regards to quake. )

posted 27-10-2001 11:13 AM         

Its a well known fact that Quake 3 has lost nearly all the charm Quake 2 had, UT has some of it and I find it much better than Quake 3, but Quake 2 is leaps and bounds ahead of both of them.

Quake 2 is/was the ultimate FPS in terms of speed weapons level design etc.

If you cant tell I get easily annoyed at people who like to pretend Quake 3 is a real shooter when compared to quake 2.

And they where very bloody good, dunno if they where 'Real' Pro's but they where 10x the player most of the people I have met on the net since then are, I played Quake 2 for every day of my life with Eraser bots on the highest difficulty, just because I had no access for that year or so didnt mean I play the game Eraser bots are way too easy even on the highest difficulty though... Well... After a few months of solid play you end up with 50-1 ratio's etc.

posted 28-10-2001 11:43 AM         

q2 has speed? rotf.. it's slow as hell compared to q3. u don't really know jack s**t about q3, hey?
i can tell you the maximum velocity (from cs jumping, pmove_fixed on) of q3 is way higher than q2.. so q2 = faster? nope.
speed as in gameplay u must mean then?
seeing as q2 was designed as a 'single' player game, with the multi as it's bonus feature.. i can't see how so.
q3 was designed purposefully for multiplayer, maps were tested over and over.. dedicated dm/tdm/ctf/duel maps that deliver intense fighting like NO other game has ever done.
q2's online maps were what... just ripped straight from the single player game, without a thought in the world at how they play.

"Quake 2 is/was the ultimate FPS in terms of speed weapons level design etc"

that statement alone tells me u talk out your freshly-cut-grass.
it's obvious to me u've never even seen how q3 was meant to be played, at the highest calibre. just admit it's too hard for you.
i have no idea about the 'eraser' bot from q2 (a bygone game with primitive physics, grfx, and multi gameplay).. but i can tell you the Lakerbot_of_AI would rip him a hole he never knew he had.
(seeing as u know squat about q3, 'Lakerbot' is what the REAL pro's use to train with).

i can sit and make u look like a dumbass all day, if thats what u want. you've done a pretty good job so far. q2 the ultimate.. rotf. it's just for old timers that can't move on & get with the new "harder" q3.

matter of fact, this opinion is shared around the world, and that is.. even quakeworld had better physics than q2.. thats how 'ultimate' ur beloved q2 is.

let it go, it's old news. i still love my commodore64, but i don't go around yelling "It'Z THE ULTImATE PC!! dOODz.. FASTEST, BesTEST onE eveR!!!!!"

posted 28-10-2001 11:51 AM         

as for single player?, i agree, q2 is a phenomenal game, it's what it was made for.
but in regards to multi... they are 'worlds' apart, in every aspect.
david & goliath. u know which is which

posted 28-10-2001 12:48 PM         

"as for single player?, i agree, q2 is a phenomenal game, it's what it was made for.
but in regards to multi... they are 'worlds' apart, in every aspect.
david & goliath. u know which is which "

I could never stomach either single player, when I said not playing online, I meant with Eraser Bots on the highest difficulty.

posted 28-10-2001 04:22 PM         

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Originally posted by Chamelion:
Lakerbot_of_AI OwnZ, Chuck him on hardest with all his features and your garunteed to go down 50-0 over 10 minutes...lol

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Is that a quake 2 or quake 3 bot?

I've been searching for a good Quake 2 bot, Eraser bots got too easy after a few months of play

posted 28-10-2001 05:49 PM            

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"OOH a dancing Jesus! Is there any better use for the internet, i think not"

posted 28-10-2001 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Sonic:
Is that a quake 2 or quake 3 bot?

I've been searching for a good Quake 2 bot, Eraser bots got too easy after a few months of play

Another thing that sucks in quake 3, the AI, the enemy's run backwards through the entire level, I dont beleive there is a person in the world who has mapped EVERY level of Quake 3 so well as to be able to run backwards the entire game without ever hitting a wall or anything.

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posted 28-10-2001 06:06 PM         

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Originally posted by SaMbA:
anyone got red raction on PC?

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I dont have it, but I have played it a fair bit

posted 28-10-2001 06:17 PM            

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"OOH a dancing Jesus! Is there any better use for the internet, i think not"

posted 28-10-2001 07:53 PM            

"Do you guys think that it is normal for me to be this good on the controller"

Simply put, mouse+keys is a better control method than pad for fps. However some pad players can beat mousers because they have learnt how to play with the disadvantage (pad). I used pad for about 5months on q3, and I bet heaps of very good mouse players, (ppl can vouch for me). Basically mousers have an advantage over pad players, but its not impossible for good pad players to beat mousers. However it would be rare for a very very good pad player to beat a very very good mouse player, mainly because the mouse has alot more accurate aim.

GeneSis725:"using Q3A on the DC controller... I rocked!!! I could kick guys arses high up with ****ED lag with the controller at my best"

Genesis, Ahem... what was your Q3 name?

posted 28-10-2001 08:05 PM         

Genesis, Ahem... what was your Q3 name?"

posted 28-10-2001 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by -=001=tFz=-:
Dragonblade, do u play online, if so whats your name?

"Do you guys think that it is normal for me to be this good on the controller"

Simply put, mouse+keys is a better control method than pad for fps. However some pad players can beat mousers because they have learnt how to play with the disadvantage (pad). I used pad for about 5months on q3, and I bet heaps of very good mouse players, (ppl can vouch for me). Basically mousers have an advantage over pad players, but its not impossible for good pad players to beat mousers. However it would be rare for a very very good pad player to beat a very very good mouse player, mainly because the mouse has alot more accurate aim.

GeneSis725:"using Q3A on the DC controller... I rocked!!! I could kick guys arses high up with ****ED lag with the controller at my best"

Genesis, Ahem... what was your Q3 name?

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posted 29-10-2001 12:27 AM         

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Originally posted by -Mauii:
I dont understand...

Ummm you said Quake 3 is heaps harder thane Quake 2... Wouldnt that depend on who you play against??

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Bloody good point, but I think he means its style of play is harder than Quake 2 and I cant cut the mustard.

If you want a real mans shooter, try operation flashpoint.

posted 29-10-2001 01:38 AM         

Another thing that sucks in quake 3, the AI, the enemy's run backwards through the entire level, I dont beleive there is a person in the world who has mapped EVERY level of Quake 3 so well as to be able to run backwards the entire game without ever hitting a wall or anything.

wtf are u playing? crash on intro level? lmao
dl the Lakerbot, play nightmare, and prepare to get that ointment ready for ur newly ripped a.z.z.

"Quake 2 is/was the ultimate FPS.."
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"If you want a real mans shooter, try operation flashpoint.
Best. First Person Shooter. Ever."

do you always change ur mind every 10 posts?
y bring up a war based shooter? we are discussing quake2 & quake3, and y q3 makes q2 look lame in every respect.
just the fact u said Unreal has charm, i don't know y i'm even bothering to discuss these kind of things with u. get back to me when u have knowledge to back up what u say. which i feel won't be any time soon.

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"mauii":

I dont understand...
Ummm you said Quake 3 is heaps harder thane Quake 2... Wouldnt that depend on who you play against??"

it's simple: physic's. q3's are deeper, & much harder to master.

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"ekin":

"Bah i doubt many here besides a few play Quake hardcore enough to be much of a challenge for me.
I challenge anyone here Q2 or Q3 on PC."

hello ekin, i'm 'a few'. do u have the IP's for q3 optus duel & wireplay duel?
optus duel#1: 203.164.3.205:21210
optus duel#2: 203.164.3.205:21220
WP duel: 202.12.147.60:27968

post a time,.. & i hope ur not wasting my time.

posted 29-10-2001 01:58 AM         

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Originally posted by pING'z bITCH:
posted by "sonic":

[b]Another thing that sucks in quake 3, the AI, the enemy's run backwards through the entire level, I dont beleive there is a person in the world who has mapped EVERY level of Quake 3 so well as to be able to run backwards the entire game without ever hitting a wall or anything.

wtf are u playing? crash on intro level? lmao
dl the Lakerbot, play nightmare, and prepare to get that ointment ready for ur newly ripped a.z.z.

"Quake 2 is/was the ultimate FPS.."
&
"If you want a real mans shooter, try operation flashpoint.
Best. First Person Shooter. Ever."

do you always change ur mind every 10 posts?
y bring up a war based shooter? we are discussing quake2 & quake3, and y q3 makes q2 look lame in every respect.
just the fact u said Unreal has charm, i don't know y i'm even bothering to discuss these kind of things with u. get back to me when u have knowledge to back up what u say. which i feel won't be any time soon.

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"mauii":

I dont understand...
Ummm you said Quake 3 is heaps harder thane Quake 2... Wouldnt that depend on who you play against??"

it's simple: physic's. q3's are deeper, & much harder to master.

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"ekin":

"Bah i doubt many here besides a few play Quake hardcore enough to be much of a challenge for me.
I challenge anyone here Q2 or Q3 on PC."

hello ekin, i'm 'a few'. do u have the IP's for q3 optus duel & wireplay duel?
optus duel#1: 203.164.3.205:21210
optus duel#2: 203.164.3.205:21220
WP duel: 202.12.147.60:27968

post a time,.. & i hope ur not wasting my time.

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So bassicaly, you are right and I am wrong and this shal never change? Gimme a break, your so up yourself its not funny, atleast I wasnt shoving my beleifs down your throat (Untill this all got out of hand)

UT is atleast 5x the game Q3 is, Quake 3 feels like a cash in game, it has no real depth of any kind and is styled like an arcade game.

So come back to me when you enjoy a game with a little depth with some well thought out gameplay, please.

posted 29-10-2001 02:33 AM         

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Originally posted by pING'z bITCH:

[post a time,.. & i hope ur not wasting my time.

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posted 29-10-2001 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Ekin:
EAAEHAehaHEHaaha ooh hardcore biatch huh? You do sound a lil up yourself but ill put that aside and go practice Q3 a little just for you darling.

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posted 29-10-2001 06:25 AM            

Quake 2 was the best team deathmatch game yet. It was not an amazing FFA game, arguably due to the slower player movement and slower rocket speed.

Because Quake 3 didn't support the weapon dropping feature from Quake 2, the Quake 2 community were put off immediately. They were by now fully into TEAM DM, where offloading weapons to freshly spawned team mates was a vital key to winning. It basically took a huge tactical element out of the game that promoted organised team work... Not good. It would have been SO simple to make it optional too.

Quake 2's DM maps were not just ripped from the single player game. Remember the file names? Q2DM1, etc? They were distinctly different... Maybe you were spending time on a server which rotated the single player maps? It wasn't uncommon in the first days of Q2.

And there was some comment about the extra speed of Q3 making it arcadey, and thus less refined... Erm... Hardly. In fact, it created what could arguably be considered too much priority on the railgun, because slower moving targets are much easier proposition for a slug shot.
It's not like the Q3 speed was anything remarkably different from the orignal Quake... Q2 was just slow, and it was with the single player game in mind that that speed was set. Let you move too fast, and then the monsters have to be able to track super fast to hit.

Personally I think Q3 is better for free for all, but for TEAM DM or CTF... Q2 is winner purely only on weapon dropping alone.

Despite the fact I hung up my railgun a while ago... I figured I should follow suit in this thread, in the true spirit of Quake trash talking... I led my Q2 clan Malevolence to the final of the first MPU Clan Wars, and the final of the first ACL series (Aust Clan League). Got some funny prizes and way too much Jolt... So I don't have to show up to a server to prove anything haha

Cheers,

posted 29-10-2001 08:10 AM         

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posted by ekin:
"EAAEHAehaHEHaaha ooh hardcore biatch huh? You do sound a lil up yourself but ill put that aside and go practice Q3 a little just for you darling."

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u do that. unlike some on this board, i can back up my words with how i play. if you interpret that as 'up myself', it's not my problem.
so the time for our game was..?
this challenge 'was' ur idea remember.

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posted 29-10-2001 08:16 AM         

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sonic:

"UT is atleast 5x the game Q3 is.."

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R>O>T>F. it's clear as day now.. ty for making me understand u.