I agree with you to a point Vzzzy...

Its like if I am driving people somewhere.. or arranging it.. I dont say.. hey sure you can come but you cant smoke in my car you bastard cos you like Tekken.

a slight embellishment but.. my point is.. I must be rather casual...
I'd prefer it if people wouldnt smoke in my car.. and they'd ask me when they got in and I'd say that i would prefer to keep it smoke free..

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Originally posted by Vzzzbx:
Okay, MSyama made his point a few too many times, and he can't spell 'arse', but I agree with him. When people come to our house we tell them we don't allow smoking in the house [if it comes up]. Same thing with MSyama/SJ and meat. I wouldn't question it, and if I had any meat I'd leave it in the car or throw it out.*

* except that meat, but it's so humongous it wouldn't fit through the door anyway

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Thank you.

And thanks Dylan/JSR aswell.

I think Syam's gone about it wrong in many ways, but this whole thread is an atrocious way of stirring him and abusing him without giving him much of a chance to get his point across, do you realise how bloody easy it is for me to take selected hilights of conversations I've had on IRC and try to make someone look like a bloody fool? I'll just start recording every log and posting on Playnow....

I made 1 simple request, and Syama took offence to comments made by Gamma (Which were not explained at the time, later on they looked more decent but the original comments sounded quite sick from my point of view, tricking a vegetarian into eating meat and making a joke out of it, anybody who expects to say that to a couple of vegetarians and not offend them has something loose in there head).

Sure it got way out of hand and Syam went overboard, but the points still stand, and its easy to see in those IRC snippets that you side stepped the points in favour of making a mockery of the way he got those points across.

I thought GCF's behaviour was extrmely childish on the first night, and posting it here even more childish, this has nothing to do with Playnow really and it was just a way of trying to publicly humiliate Syama who had seriously done little wrong except go overboard in the way he talks, and possibly stirr the tekken fans too much. That sickens me really.

The only problem I had/have with Gamma was that he didnt explain the trick he played on his friend, after he explained it I thought it was more than reasonable - But the way he showed it at first sounded absolutely horrible. Syama was offended greatly by the story, and with good reason if you ask me, try to put yourself in his position, he just wanted a simple 'sorry I told the story out of context' or 'sorry if that offended you', obviously you dont HAVE to say that, but its hardly a difficult curtesy is it?

I havnt seen the whole log of last night, so I cant comment on it, but saying things like "You're (non leather) shoes" is a good way to stirr someone dont you think? Not that he even brought up leather, I think that was unfnk, neither of us at any point tried to force our beleifs onto anyone else or talk about them as if we are higher beings or anything that deserves mockery, we just wanted our kitchen to remain meat free.

I wanted 1 simple rule for the gamesnight / weekend (And lets face it, it was more than just a games night, I had invited a small horde of people to stay at my house, sleep there, go out to our favourite restaraunte with us and use anything in our house including the kitchen, it was more like a weekend visit than just a night of gaming, and originally it was Cary coming down to visit us and play a few games maybe) and I accidentally mentioned it twice to GCF, GCF went nutso at me about how it was a wierd rule and I Was drilling it into his head, now if thats not atleast as bad as anything my brother did I dont know what is.

If my brother had an account at playnow and had some credability here, I think all these conversations would be different, hes a good guy in reality and he doesnt take offence easily unless he find it to be something serious, he took offence here and you mocked him for it, you publicly humiliated him, this is a very horrible thing to do to any person, and I think you need to think about that before you continue to mock him here, at gamenation, and on IRC.

I'm not going to bother with snippets of the logs which make GCF look like a complete arshole and psycho, because I dont want to make people the subject of public ridicule, or mock them, I find that idea just plain stupid, even after all the crap GCF has said about my brother and the crap he said to me.

Edit - I'd just like to point out that I have other friends coming who would have brought and prepared meals with meat in them, as I told everyone to deal with there own food and they can use our kitchen if they want, I was just informing people of our 1 house rule.

Its clearly more than a gamesday anyway, since everyone is invited to stay over and do non game related activities the next day, going out showing them some of our favourite places on the gold coast (Montezumas in surfers ) sorry if I didnt make that clear enough.

They said no meat.. I said fine.. I mean like i would be bringing a meat tray anyway I told em what we generally eat at these types of things.. and he was yeah okay.. but no meat..

actually he reminded me of Daisy from Girl Interrupted.. the one with the Chicken.. and who wanted the Valium.

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

I think Syam's gone about it wrong in many ways.

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Way to address the reasoning behind my point.. that IS the main thing.. your brother's method of presenting his opinion is rather poor - if you dont agree with him.. you are an idiot.. I wont bother going back to the log file for that..

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

I made 1 simple request, and Syama took offence to comments made by Gamma (Which were not explained at the time, later on they looked more decent but the original comments sounded quite sick from my point of view, tricking a vegetarian into eating meat and making a joke out of it, anybody who expects to say that to a couple of vegetarians and not offend them has something loose in there head).

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Considering you came down on him like a tonne of bricks as soon as he said it.. you didnt give him a chance to explain the full situation.. instead you all out attacked him saying that he disgusts you.. and then you now say that it looked more decent.. perhaps asking WHY he did it.. and then maybe determining whether of not it is decent.. that might avoid a future conflict..

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

Sure it got way out of hand and Syam went overboard, but the points still stand, and its easy to see in those IRC snippets that you side stepped the points in favour of making a mockery of the way he got those points across

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It was way out of hand even before we got talking about meat Sonic. Your brother is unreasonable and has a superiority complex... if you dont like VF more than Tekken.. you suck.. what utter garbage.. I used snippets on request.. I had the log file there to be read.. which gives the full story..

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

I thought GCF's behaviour was extrmely childish on the first night, and posting it here even more childish, this has nothing to do with Playnow really and it was just a way of trying to publicly humiliate Syama who had seriously done little wrong except go overboard in the way he talks, and possibly stirr the tekken fans too much. That sickens me really.

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

The only problem I had/have with Gamma was that he didnt explain the trick he played on his friend, after he explained it I thought it was more than reasonable - But the way he showed it at first sounded absolutely horrible. Syama was offended greatly by the story, and with good reason if you ask me, try to put yourself in his position, he just wanted a simple 'sorry I told the story out of context' or 'sorry if that offended you', obviously you dont HAVE to say that, but its hardly a difficult curtesy is it?
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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

I accidentally mentioned it twice to GCF, GCF went nutso at me about how it was a wierd rule and I Was drilling it into his head, now if thats not atleast as bad as anything my brother did I dont know what is..

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3 times you mentioned it.. I acknowledged your request.. you having to say it AGAIN and AGAIN made it sound weird... your request is weird only in the context that you made it into a bigger deal than it really is.. not to mention.. who the hell brings meat to a frigging gamesnight anyway? I mean if you said.. dont bring Coke or Chips.. at least those things are worth mentioning..
I was over the whole mentioning it 3 times thing.. and then you both jumped on Gamma..

I guess all houses have rules.. eg.. My Babcia (polish for Grandmother) When in her house.. You must speak English if there is an english only speaking relly there... The chances of there being all Polish speaking people there.. NIL.. so the rule doesnt apply.. the Chances of a bunch of teenage-mid 20's guys rocking up with meat trays to cook up a feast.. I'd say -2.. just to be safe.
So dont be trying the whole "ITS AN ATTACK BECAUSE WE HAVE ETHNIC TIES etc"
I come from a strong Polish family.. so your whinging is wasted.

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

If my brother had an account at playnow and had some credability here, I think all these conversations would be different, hes a good guy in reality and he doesnt take offence easily unless he find it to be something serious, he took offence here and you mocked him for it, you publicly humiliated him, this is a very horrible thing to do to any person, and I think you need to think about that before you continue to mock him here, at gamenation, and on IRC..

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If anything.. I have a bigger problem with the way your brother enforced his opinion about fighting games rather than your anti-meat policy.. Saying that Tekken is only played by a bunch of morons can be taken as offensive.. and then him crapping on about how he reckons that it is a fact? Anyone with that outlook deserves a good mocking.. and thats why he got one.. Unfnk and Gamma arent the type to mock someone unless they are given a good reason.. and after the way he acted.. I guess you are lucky that we havent been so "childish". Believe me.. Some of the stuff you and your brother ranted about.. The Migushi S3Xx0r Doll would pale in comparison.

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:

I'm not going to bother with snippets of the logs which make GCF look like a complete arshole and psycho, because I dont want to make people the subject of public ridicule, or mock them, I find that idea just plain stupid, even after all the crap GCF has said about my brother and the crap he said to me.

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This isnt worth it to me, I made my points and people can choose to agree or disagree, arguing back and forth wont change anything anymore, so I wont bother writing a huge reply or replying at all.

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Originally posted by Sonic_Jam:
Changing my name to you-suck was actualy a joke, because everything was getting out of hand so I tried to relax the situation.

This isnt worth it to me, I made my points and people can choose to agree or disagree, arguing back and forth wont change anything anymore, so I wont bother writing a huge reply or replying at all.

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Msyama;and no,I'm not bullshitting.

<GCF|fat> hey Gamma youre pretty delish - FACT!!1!!!!!!
<Gamma> :D I DON'T THINK YOU'RE READY FOR MY JELLY><0r. FACT!